Jesus' Spiritual and Literal Kingdom

"We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen not very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitians`s reign." (Against Heresies, v.xxx.3)

This was written by Irenaeus (120-202 AD) who was an early church father and who wrote the above in 180 AD.  Preterists claim those men who lived in those times would not have known... Sure, the people in those ancient times did not have TV, radio or internet, but they were not stupid, and were informed about such important matters like Jesus' Coming back to earth.


PRETERISM  (interpreting the Bible saying that Jesus came back in 70 AD) IS A LIE! They say it He came back in 70 AD Spiritually only. But they confuse this with the kingdom of God that is within God's people, also known as the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus left us shortly after His resurrection known as Pentecost.

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." (Acts 1:6-8 KJV)

Preterism is a lie, because Israel has only been restored in 1948, and not before. The fall of Jerusalem was the last destruction that took place, and the Jews were spread into the Diaspora until then.

According to Acts 1:6-8 (see above), Jesus' Second Coming has not taken place yet, because if Jesus had come back in 70 AD, all the people on earth would have witnessed that.

The following verse underlines this:

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.(Revelation 1:7 KJV)

When God says "every eye", He means "every eye".

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The Kingdom of God is about now and here and then:

"Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." (Mark 1:14 KJV)

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." (John 18:36 KJV)

There were two kinds of kingdoms Jesus was talking about... the Kingdom of God that was about the love and holiness by the Holy Spirit that was to fill the hearts of His followers, and a real literal kingdom that was - and still is - to come.

"That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thess. 2:2-4 KJV)

But there was nobody sitting in the temple of God in Jerusalem. This temple was destroyed, and we are waiting for that same temple being built up again, so this all can take place. We have to watch out for that "third" temple, and we are warned not to believe anything else.

God Bless You!

Nah, Jesus has not come back yet! Preterism is a Lie

"We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen not very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitians`s reign." (Against Heresies, v.xxx.3)

This was written by Irenaeus (120-202 AD) who was an early church father and who wrote the above in 180 AD.

Full Preterists cannot...

...have the LORD'S SUPPER
...celebrate EASTER
...celebrate CHRISTMAS
...pray the LORD'S PRAYER
...confess to the APOSTLE'S CREED

Full Pretrism is a full lie!

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The Apostles' Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty.
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord,
who was born of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary;
crucified under Pontius Pilate and buried;
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and sits at the right hand of the Father,
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in the Holy Spirit;
the holy Church;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the flesh.

Preterists choose not to agree with the Apostles' Creed but make up a gospel of their own instead... Now I say it with the Apostle Paul:

I marvel that you so soon are being moved away from Him who called you into the grace of Christ, to another gospel, which is not another, but some are troubling you, and desiring to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we said before, and now I say again, If anyone preaches a gospel to you beside what you have received, let him be accursed. For now do I persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet pleased men, I would not be a servant of Christ. (Gal 1:6-10 MKJV)

Preterism Refuted

Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. (1 Corinthians 15:12-26 KJV)

Telling the people that the resurrection of the dead has taken place Spiritually already is robbing people of the chance they have for the future.

Christians are told to be on the watch day and night... for Jesus will come like a thief and they should be holy.

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. (2 Peter 3:13-14 KJV)

How could they if they believe that Jesus came back in 70 AD?

After the first and second warning, reject a man of heresy, knowing that he who is such has been perverted, and sins, being self-condemned. (Titus 3:10-11 MKJV)

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (1 John 4:3 KJV)

But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. (2 Timothy 2:16-19 KJV)

In addition, Preterists steal the hope of the Christian believers:

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 KJV)

Preterists cannot do what Christ told the Disciples:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20 KJV)

In Full Preterists' views the Second Coming of Christ took place in 70 AD, so what should Disciples of today preach?

Preterism denies (or changes) most of the New Testament, and there will not be much left. Take this, for example:

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. (2 Peter 3:13-14 KJV)

Peter speaks of a promise, but what a promise would be left for the people of today? Shall we listen to the Preterists not to look for such things, or shall we listen to Peter?

Peter writes in his second letter:

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (2Pe 3:7, KJV)

Full Preterists say that this is not valid for us anymore, for Peter was speaking of a near future in 70 AD, when the Solomon Temple fell and Jerusalem was taken and so many killed.

Preterists rob the people of the TRUTH by their claim that the Judgement has already taken place in 70 AD! They actually fear Judgement, but please do not ask me why.

Peter describes the destruction of the earth and everything around it.
Preterists see the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem described there.

Peter writes in that same letter:

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. (2 Peter 3:10 KJV)

Now please tell me, how could this describe the fall of Jerusalem, especially if one regards the fact that the New Testament deals with CHRISTIANS? Why should Christians have regarded this the END OF EVERYTHING, while the Christian churches had been founded by the Apostles already - in Corinth, Ephesus, Rome, Minor Asia, etc...???

Preterists are dreamers that do not want to believe God's Word when He informs the people of the coming Judgment. Peter warned:

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished (2 Peter 3:5-6 KJV)

And the following of Peter's words were obviously only valid for the people BEFORE 70 AD if we believe the Preterists and not the Apostles:

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9 KJV)

So why would someone come to repentance hundreds of years afterwards?

Preterism is a LIE – the Preterists are probably not aware of that, but it is what it is.

This lie is not just about a verse or two, but affects almost the whole New Testament, especially the Book of Revelation:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. (Revelation 21:1-4 KJV)

Preterists will TEACH the people that this was all fulfilled in 70 AD already... Can you imagine the consequences of that?

And they also reject the following (or paraphrase it to their liking or whatever they do so it fits their self-composed Bible:

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (Revelation 1:7 KJV)

Preterists want you to believe that *every eye* saw Jesus coming in some symbolical clouds on His Second Coming in 70 AD.

Preterists cannot even sign the Nicene Creed or the Apostle's Creed, either:

The Apostles' Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty.
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord,
who was born of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary;
crucified under Pontius Pilate and buried;
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and sits at the right hand of the Father,
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in the Holy Spirit;
the holy Church;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the flesh.

Preterists would have to kick the fifth line from the bottom out, because it is related to future events which they deny, since they claim they have taken place already.

Please notice that the Creeds were created to save the Church from false teachers and filter them out, because...

A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. (Galatians 5:9 KJV)

It was not only Peter who fought against the false teachers of his time... but Paul, John, Titus and Jesus Himself, but the church fathers, too.

Having studied their claims for years now, I have come to the conclusion that Full Preterism is a deadly sect like the Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists or the like, and their replacement theory also fosters a really bad form of Anti-Semitism.

Last not least, let me stop this article with the following Scripture:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:21-27 KJV)

104.04 Just some Thoughts

Thought No. 4

"And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen." (Revelation 1:6 KJV)

We shall...

...praise the Lord for ever and ever.
...allow Him dominion for ever and ever.

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I have thought about that, and some ideas struck my mind. We shall praise the Lord for ever and ever. I am reminded of the Lord's Prayer where it says:

"Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:10 KJV)

and also a little later:

"For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever." (Matthew 6:13 KJV)

This was to be prayed to the Father, but John now says that all glory is to Jesus, and dominion as well - all power and glory to the Father, power and glory to the son - for ever ... please think about it, and do not forget that our God is the One God in Three Persons. The fact that Jesus claims that all the glory and power be to the Father and John claims that it is to the Son is no contradiction but more proof that the two persons are One, which Jesus expressed by the following words:

"I and my Father are one." (John 10:30 KJV)

This started the Jews to hate Him, because this is what happened after He spoke out that He was ONE with the Father:

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. (John 10:30 KJV)

Jesus tried to convince them, but they did not listen - for all they were listening to was the law, but they did not have God in their hearts:

"Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God." (John 10:32-33 KJV)

They accused Jesus of blasphemy, because he had "made Himself God".

And this is true for all Christians: Jesus is God!

Do not believe the cultists who come along and speak of the Father without the Son.

Jesus knew they would crucify Him, yet He reminded them of the law and what it says:

"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"(John 10:34-36 KJV)

Well, this is really funny... They held the law against Jesus and told Him He would blaspheme by breaking the law and called Himself God while He was fulfilling that same law. I wonder today if they really did not see that, or if they just did not want to see that. Could it be that the Jews, God's elected people, actually did not have enough faith in their God to believe that He would send the Messiah?

But they could not see, because they were blinded by God Himself, for He had a plan to redeem this fallen world from death. The father had to sacrifice His Son, so the devil would not have a hold on the people anymore. God knew His creatures too well to see that they would never get rid of their sinful nature by their own works, but He loved us too much to give us up. That was why Jesus, Yeshuah, the Lamb of God, who was without any sin, had to pay for the sins of the world on the tree in our place, so everybody who believes in Him can be saved.

In His unconditional love Jesus gave His life away for His friends. We can see how much His love must be for us from that fact, considering that He did not just die, but He was crucified, which was one of the cruellest death a person could die. But there was more than that... He carried all the evil of this world on His shoulders when on that tree to reconcile "the world unto himself" (which is just possible if Jesus and the Father are ONE):

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. (2 Corinthians 5:18-21 KJV)

Yes, Jesus must have suffered much "for he hath made him to be sin for us...", and with all the sin on His shoulders, the Father hat to leave Him, because sin and God do not go together, so Jesus spoke the last words "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34 KJV) and died. Death is a place where God is not. Being left by God is what made Jesus suffer, and which makes everybody suffer. If we die and have not reconciled with God, there will be no way for us to be together with God anymore.

Some people ask, "Why is there so much evil in this world?" I think they should better thank the Lord that He has still left His representative, the Holy Spirit here, so they do not have to ask, "Why is there only evil in this world?" And that state makes me think of hell... But why not choose Heaven and look for God, and see how much beauty, love and grace the Lord has still for us here, while we had nothing else to do but sin? Just look around, and see the sun. Amen.

104.03 Just some Thoughts

Thought No. 3
I agree, Revelation and the proclaimed destruction of the world is all to be seen in the light of Creation. It is God's plan for us to live with Him. We were made for that, and probably nothing else, and that He could provide us with His everlasting and Divine love. We are His creatures - on our way to perfection, sanctification. We Christians are perfect in God's eyes already - ready for Heaven. He does not see our short-coming anymore. Our sins have all been washed away in the precious blood of Jesus Christ, whom the Father resurrected from death. I thank the Father for that, and Jesus, and I know I have not deserved it by anything. It is all God's grace that allows me to live with God. It does not start in Heaven - it started the day I surrendered, and I have a piece of Heaven already right now. He sends me His peace every day anew, and I would not know what to do without it. I have no idea how I could live one day without God. But I had not known Him. I knew I was missing something, but did not know it was God. It is so difficult to explain that to unbelievers. I know I also tried to understand believers, but it did not work, because God was not there for me, just someone abstract in the distance - too far away for me to reach. But then the miracle happened, and He reached out for me! I am just glad that I was open enough that I did not close my ears when that happened... Now I can see that I am His beloved creature, and that He wants to save the people from eternal death, which we would all have deserved. It would have been a problem for us if God had destroyed the world aright after the Adam's and Eve's fall, but God did not give up on us, and I often ask why He wants someone like me.

God does everything just at the right time. He is outside of the time and can see everything that has ever happened in no time. But we do not know much of His ways. But we know that His word will never come back void.

It is interesting... There are Christians today who reject the Creation as described in Genesis - but do they not have to give up the hope of Heaven as well? And what remains for them?

104.02 Just some Thoughts

Thought No. 2

Whatever you do, do it with God, and read and listen to what He has to say.
Do not change the meaning of the Bible to your personal liking.
There are metaphors in the Bible, sure, as there are in most other books. Metaphors are used to illustrate things for a better understanding.
If you read the Bible literally, you might face the problem that you have become a letter idiot.
Last week I told someone the way after I was asked. I told him, "Go straight on until you can see a white house." He could have thought, oh, she meant that literally, and I must look for a white house... but there was no real white house, because it was kind of beige, because the rain had washed the color away. He might as well have thought, oh, it was meant metaphorically! I must look for a house of the Government in Washington D.C..
Actually both was wrong. He should have understood what everybody would have understood... he might never have found the way. The truth was I was speaking of a white house that looked white to anyone. Would I have used metaphors to tell him the way? No, I used what I thought he would understand best. Who dares saying God would use speech that nobody can  understand and we all have to guess? God is not stupid.

104.01 Just some Thoughts

Thought No. 1

Jerusalem and the Herod Temple falls. (70 AD)
Heavens and the earth will be destroyed. (yet to come)
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God makes things new, a new Heaven and a new earth first. (yet to come)
God makes a New Jerusalem where he Himself is the Temple. (yet to come)


[Idea: God will destroy first, then build up. God is creating new things from the old things. We know all the things that John describes in Revelation, but God will give up the imperfect world and make a perfect one. God could create completely new things but makes a heaven, an earth and a New Jerusalem, and new, perfect humans. He seems to love His creation and does not want to give it up.]